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Disney-Fox Deal: How Does it Affect 24?

Disney announced today they have finalized a deal to buy out most of 21st Century Fox for a whopping $52.4 billion. What exactly does this mean for the future of the “24” franchise?

Although the FOX broadcast channel is staying put, Disney has taken over the 20th Century Fox Television studio where “24” was produced. So essentially the future of the franchise is now entirely in Disney’s hands.

The Los Angeles Times reports that the deal might cause high-level Fox executives to either jump ship or be laid off. Fox Television Group Chairman Dana Walden who worked at Fox for more than 20 years is said to have already been approached by Amazon to become chief executive of Amazon Studios.

Anxiety has spread beyond the executive ranks. Producers who make shows for the broadcast network are uncertain how their businesses will be affected. “No one really knows what’s going to happen,” one producer said Monday.

Company insiders have been hearing that the broadcast network will become more dependent on sports events, news programs and unscripted reality series. Such programming is largely watched live at the time it airs — which means viewers are more likely to see the commercials.

We’ll have to see how things shake out in the following months, but in short, this does not seem promising for those wanting more “24” in the near future.

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December 14, 2017 at 2:35 pm
I’m more concerned about how this affects Gotham’s renewal chances, as no one really needs this 24 legal drama. But Gotham’s over the top madness is pretty fun.

Who would have ever expected that 24 would one day be owned by Disney…

I would guess Fox’s existing lineup is safe for the near future. Any major shakeups will likely occur in 2019 or later – after the Disney deal is officially completed (and when Disney is expected to launch their streaming service).

But I do think they’ll be extra careful with any future shows in development. I expect the 24 legal drama will end up dead in the water. It just doesn’t benefit Fox much anymore since they’d only profit from the initial airing – and the live ratings for Legacy were very poor. All of the money these days seems to be in licensing, syndication, home video, streaming deals which Fox would see no part of (Disney gets it now).

Just doesn’t make as much sense to pick it up anymore. i kind of doubt it makes it past the script stage, which is probably for the best honestly.

I respectfully disagree. I could be wrong. You maybe right but I would think if script is very good when Howard and Jeremy turn it in next year I cannot see why a network like Fox would pass on a script if it’s good especially since Imagine and Fox have been very eager to continue the 24 franchise even after Legacy even though Legacy was horrible. Joel Surnow has his idea as well.

With the emails I got today from everyone attached to project, they all seem very positive about the development of the show. That’s why I think.

So IMO I do not think 24 is dead in the water. It will either stay at Fox or move to another network or become a movie.

I still think Fox will keep it cuz if it’s name and Legacy it has. And I read a season 6 of Prison Break is in early development.

Very excited about 24 maybe becoming a legal drama. Hopefully It’s much better than Legacy.

I guess we will find out more at Press Tour in January.

Justin.. weren’t you the one who said legacy was ”One of the best seasons” ”Surely to be renewed”.. Sorry if i take your opinion with a grain of salt in this case, considering all you been doing is trolling this page, and spamming the people who work on 24 with emails…

I think the reference to streaming deals and FOX not seeing them isn’t correct. Being a subsidiary of Disney, Fox would still benefit from streaming views as it would go to the parent company. Whether the online streaming is through a FOX based or Disney based website is irrelevant as Disney will still benefit from streaming FOX’s content.

I still think the future of 24 is in doubt due to this deal, but Disney will still consider on-demand and online viewing when giving shows the green light.

I have reached out to Howard Gordon, Imagine Entertainment, and Fox. Brian Grazer’s assistant at Imagine said this has no affect on 24 and they are continuing on with the script development of 24 reboot. Howard Gordon has said this has no affect and no change of status. Howard Gordon’s assistant has confirmed this to me, Joel Surnow’s assistant has confirmed development will not be stopped and so has Chris Alexander at Fox as everyone still needs content.

I also read for the near future Fox will continue to produce scripted content and Fox could buy another Scripted studio. As well I read there will be no staff changes for the near future at Fox until the deal is approved in 12-18 months. Also Fox could theoretically air 24 still and just buy from Disney or 24 will not move. But all parties have confirmed to me today that there will be no change in development and a script will be ready for submission in the new year sometime!

http://deadline.com/2017/12/fox-broadcasting-entertainment-shows-scripted-future-disney-lease-fox-digs-severance-packages-fox-disney-merger-fallout-updates-1202227056/amp/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&__twitter_impression=true

Fuck off already, Justin.

I thought it.. You said it.

Howard Gordon’s assistant Jose said a script will be ready in new year and decisions will be made then. Brian Grazer’s assistant said no change in status and things are moving forward nicely, as did Chris Alexander at Fox said no change in status from November. As did Erin Moody at 20th century fox who said no change in status since November 1st. So more 24 is definitely a possibility in near future especially since Fox is planning to still air scripted shows and entertainment shows for near future until deal is approved in 12-18 months and the executives are not going anywhere until deal is approved by the government. So 24 could stay at Fox or could be moved to another network as everyone still needs content these days. As well I heard Fox may buy another studio where they can buy their content from or they can still get 24 other ways. So 24 is not dead as all parties have confirmed to me. I have all their emails as proof as well

Joel Surnow’s assistant also said the Disney/Fox deal does not affect development on 24!

Walt Disney himself confirmed to me today that a 24/Mickey Mouse crossover is in the works!!!! This will be the best 24 season yet!!! Watch this space!!!

I hear Goofy is the mole.

bugs bunny is the mole: He eats Carrots all the day so no one will suspect him.

That makes sense. He always seemed a little sneaky. :D

While 24 Legacy sucked big time and was a creative failure and was not fresh at all, 24 imo still remains a beloved series at Fox, the studio and producers!

Fox gave the 24 reboot a script commitment and the producers have been busting their asses off the last 7 months working on development. Fox and producers have been adamant on continuing 24 after Legacy and I stilll think 24 can be a money maker and be great again. I am so down for a complete reboot and a re fresh. So I am down to give a legal 24 show a chance. I still love Howard Gordon, Joel Surnow and Co.

I do not think Fox will scrap development due to a deal with Disney. This Is my opinion based on what Howard Gordon, his assistant, Joel’s assistant, Brian grazer’s assistant and 20th century fox and fox told me today that development is moving forward.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions and their speculation on the news so I do not fault anyone here for anything that is said.

Hope everyone has a very Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! I wish you all the best during the holidays with your families. Wish everyone nothing but love, happiness, joy, positivity, great health and care this holiday season! You all deserve it.

Looking forward to what 2018 brings for the 24 universe!

Seriously aren’t you supposed to be banned?

You said 24 Legacy was awesome…

Lol, I remember Justin crowing each week about how each episode of Legacy was the best episode of 24 of all time.

Now, he says it “sucked big time.”

For those who think the 24 franchise is dead. I wanted to provide the proof of the emails I got from the 24 team currently involved with the reboot: I do not like to speculate at news, so I went right to the sources to find out the status on the reboot, Below are what each individual said.

Howard Gordon said this:

“I’m sure (as sure as I can be) that 24 is an important “brand” – so I assume Disney will be every bit as motivated to continue developing the franchise…” “still working on it…
no timing of when script will be done. just when script is right…”
Best,
H

Michael Rosenberg from Imagine said this:

“Everyone continues to need content and service all the networks and platforms. ”

Jose Cabrera:

“Doesn’t change anything. Decisions will be made when there is a script.” Script will be done sometime in new year

Chris Alexander at Fox:

“No change in status”

Rob Kenneally (Joel Surnow’s agent)

– *No, deal with Disney does not affect development of reboot*

Well of curse they’d all say that; the Disney/Fox deal was only announced yesterday… it hasn’t been approved yet and the transition hasn’t started, to merge the two entities… so projects are proceeding until the changeover and final decisions are made.

But I agree with our host; I don’t see the new overlords at Fox Broadcasting continuing with the 24 franchise after the transition… there’s nothing in it for them; the original iteration had already peaked commercially before it ended in 2010, Live Another Day got merely solid rather than great numbers in 2014, and Legacy outright tanked… that’s a downward market trajectory by any metric standard.

As huge a fan of 24 as I am and remain – despite Day 6, ’nuff said! – it’s time to let it go and rest in peace…

If the 24 project is in development for 2018/2019 season then a script will be ready for early new year and a Pilot decision will be made early 2018 way before the deal is approved and so would a decision on series would be made by May 1 year before Disney fox deal is done.

Deadline said in August that this may go to Pilot before official Pilot season.

Fox will still need content for 2018/2019 so I can see them doing one season seeing how it does and go from there. So basically decisions will be made on what’s in development and how the script turns out.

If Howard and Jeremy make a great script a network will reject a great script.

I feel that Fox is somewhat unenthusiastic about this reboot. I mean the development moves at a glacial pace as we get new information regarding the reboot at least once every two months. I really hope the end result isn’t some half assed attempt to revive the series by showing a rip-off of Law and Order with a ticking clock.

The second season of Designated Survivor is boring and bad so Disney should cancel this show and bring back 24 with Jack Bauer.

They bought Fox for 52.4 Billions, so bringing back 24 for another season that cost 50-60 Millions is nothing for them – if they want it back they can do it easily.

Time to put the series to bed. I’m as die hard a 24 fan as anyone, but 24: Legacy sucked (didn’t even make it past the first episode) and the legal reboot sounds even worse.

I really enjoyed Live Another Day, and, despite the inconclusive end for Jack, I am content with that being the ultimate end of the show.

Justin is a moronic troll and his posts are worthless nonsense.

The 24 Legal spinoff is dead, it will not happen.

My best guess is we will see a 24 theatrical film in a few years starring Kiefer.

Disney knows that Jack Bauer is synonymous with 24 and they will re-introduce the character in a future film.

Bet on it.

The development on 24 is moving forward at a slow pace as Howard said they are taking their time to get right. Legacy took 3 years to develop.

Brian Grazer’s assistant and Howard Gordon both said Disney would be motivated to continue 24 as it’s an important brand so I can see the legal action show happening. I can see Fox ordering a 24 for 2018/2019 as it’s meant to be Anthology. As said all networks and studios continue to need content hinting 24 could move.

They may even go with Joel Surnow’s idea.

Justin dude, the only legal action I see happening with regards all involved is them taking out a joint restraining order against YOU… seriously, stop bugging HoGo and everyone else connected with 24 and get a life.

Do you actually believe that this guy really bothers HoGo and the others? :D

Justin does frequently email them and they do sometimes respond. I’ve seen some of the emails before and they were authentic.

HoGo and co’s responses should obviously be taken with a grain of salt though since they’re directly involved in the project and will only/always put a positive spin on things.

sounds kinda like justin ” will only/always put a positive spin on things.”

What is th real reason of Kiefer leaving 24? Was it his age and shape or problems with Fox and political opinion differences? I mean I remember reading something about Kiefer leaving because of some disagreements with Fox.. if that was the reason, he might come back right?.. I know my wish now when blowing the candles next bday ..

@Justin: I wish you a merry Christmas too! and also slow and painful death you piece of troll shit.. no I am just kidding, just please shut the fuck up or I will find you k?

Kiefer never ‘left’ 24; his contract expired with Day 8 and both he, showrunner Howard Gordon, and Fox (who were no doubt looking at the numbers, it was a very expensive show to produce by the end) decided it was a good time to end it on a strong note.

Kiefer tried his best for three solid years to get the movie made but it didn’t happen.

He signed on for Live Another Day, and that was the extent of his contractual obligation.

He’s said repeatedly he’d gladly play Jack for the rest of his career, but he and HoGo both feel (again, rightly, in my opinion) that Jack’s story is done… at least for now.

I see, thanks for the information.. I am really not very interested to see 24 without JB.. maybe a restart with new Jack Bauer actor would be nice. Maybe a prequel set in 70’s or 80’s would not be a bad idea as well .. or just a reboot set in 2017 and Michael Shannon or Jason Isaacs as a new JB as in James Bond movies… in the lead

Jack Bauer and the punisher should get their own show together!!I was impressed with the new marvel punisher show. It had a few 24 actors as well .

Does The Punisher has Similar things to 24?

And if I very enjoyed 24 would I like or enjoy The Punisher?

i watched the punisher and and there were many things that made me remember the Jack Bauer good days

Oh great I think I lot of fox’s Shows will be either canceled or effected by this 24 isn’t the only show on the line here.

Prison shitbreak was renewed…

I moved onto other shows since the downfall of 24/kiefer’s exit of course I will always remain a fan during his run but to keep 24 on life support without kiefer is just not working. Either figure out a story that would get kiefer interested to return or don’t bring the darn thing back to die all over again. Enough is enough all ready.

You don’t spend billions of dollars on properties to not use them.

And they will definitely use them and make their money back and then some. But 24 doesn’t necessarily have to be a part of that plan. Fox has plenty of other properties

I really want to believe that 24 is about to have a very last season in Netflix production just like The Killing.. designated survivor is somehow connected to Netflix as in Europe it is presented as Netflix original and it used to be released every week as in the US on the ABC…

It’s not. It’s never coming back.

I kept saying for years on 24 forum sites that 24 would eventually drive itself headlong into the ground and go out with a whimper rather than a bang. This was back during the season 7/8 days. People called me an idiot, troll, “not a true 24 fan”, etc and gave me crap for it.

I hate to say “I told you so” but…

Actually, I DO hate saying it but only for one reason: 24 was one of my favorite TV shows and it hurts seeing it die the death it has. This is how we’ll remember 24:

-Tony dies, resurrected, turns bad, turns sorta-kinda-good/gray/whatever but doesn’t get to have a final glorious heroic scene and, instead, just limps off with a broken arm brought on by a new character no one cared about

-Jack comes out of limbo and goes right back into it again all in one season and his swan song is a repeat of Season 5’s ending but this time with no chance of followup

-A new season with a new lead that acts like Jack Bauer-lite and a Senator that acts like Palmer-lite with Drazen-lite and no compelling characters

-Repeat of every single plotline from past seasons and crammed into one season

This is how 24 went out. This is how we get to remember 24: the very last scene of the show is of some carbon copy of Jack because they couldn’t get Kiefer back and Tony still on the lamb in a sort of gray area, a shadow of his former self.

That’s our last episode of 24. That’s what this once great show went out on.

When you say it like that…Yeah, it hurts as a fan.

I cared about Renee.

Don’t be presumptuous, JD. There’s enough of that on the internet.

What does Renee have to do with anything?

Sincerest apologies. I misread his comment.

If you ignore Legacy, I think ’24’ went out as best as it could have with Live Another Day… should Kiefer never return to the role of Jack again (and I’m betting he won’t), then I have no regrets how it all played out… with the exception of Day 6, of course! Kiefer and HoGo are right; Jack’s story is done.

There’s no point lamenting a franchise not continuing when that franchise had reached it’s natural end… and ’24’ had reached it’s natural end, of that there is no doubt.

Be thankful for the 204 episodes we got instead of the possible ones we’ll never get.

Here endeth the lesson.

Right you are, Gerry dude!

Cheers, Brad dude… any word on when we can expect the Seasons 4 and 5 retrospectives?

I’m still chipping away at them! I didn’t expect them to take so long, but they’re massive seasons with a lot to talk about. I’ve written close to 6,000 words for season four alone. I’m in a polishing stage right now so hopefully it won’t be too much longer.

24s less that satisfactory end can be put down to the fact that it’s a FOX show. They will NEVER let you end on a high, because if you’re on a high they’ll insist on keeping it open for “a movie” (fuck off!) or “potentially more”. The only way a show will ever go out on Fox is on a low. I respectfully disagree with LAD being a good ending, it was utter shite (as was Legacy’s too – I feel your pain JD), season 8s is the only ending I could’ve just about lived with, but really a much better, focused season 7 dealing with the cabal behind the whole multi-season conspiracy would’ve been my personal idea of how it should’ve ended.

If any of you are X-Files fans, just watch. I can guarantee that even though Anderson is confirmed to be leaving, they will not seize the opportunity and give us a satisfying ending at all, and why? The usual bullshit Fox reasons, i.e. “movies” and “more”.

In an ideal world there should be an industry rule for television shows; plan your story, tell your story, then fuck off. Sadly we don’t live in that world, and most of the shows we love have suffered for it.

A tad off-topic: Cyrus Yavneh, the line producer for the show in Season 1 & the first 10 episodes of Season 2, has passed away. He was 75.

http://deadline.com/2018/01/cyrus-yavneh-dead-supernatural-24-producer-falling-skies-1202274979/

I remember when his name would flash up and I’d be struck by how villainous sounding his name was. RIP fella, you were there for the best days of that show.

Imho I still would like to see them write a story that gets jack outta Moscow. But it’s clearly not gonna happen. 24 has been dead in the water since kiefer left so. These reinventing 24 is just not working in their favor so they need to stop trying to replace Jack Bauer as if he comes in some essembely line just leave 24 alone cause again I say it’s certainly not working with out kiefer. & heck they even brought tony back & he was treated as if he was in a secondary role. Unlike season 7 where they gave him a lot to do. Enough is enough. There are other great shows now anyhow.

I liked Season 7 Tony.

Just saying.

Totally! but they ruined him in the shitbox that was Legacy

So…does this mean we can all stop talking and consider this the end of any possibility of future 24?

Whether we stop talking or not, the show is dead.

I liked tony the best in day 7 as well . I think JJ Abrams would be a good choice to direct or as a producer if there ever would be a film or one last day with Jack in it, Abrams has had a pretty good track record with his involvement. IMO

After hearing Disney’s move, I have a feeling that this would mean that any sort of potential 24 anthologies/revivals/reboot, would either be scrapped for good, or be dramatically toned down through Disney’s standards. One prime example is Desingated Survivor, which ABC Studios is a sister company of Disney.

Personally, I am not thrilled with this news. FOX has a great identity with it’s own unique franchises and offerings. What I wonder, aside from 24, how the tone for future films from the Alien universe , etc will differ.

I even read that long time FOX partner/showrunner/director Ryan Murphy will leave FOX as he is heading towards Netflix now. Sounds simular to what happened to Dana Walden, is the end of a great era?

As far as I know, Dana Walden has not left FOX. She joined the board of Hulu, but she’s still chairman of FOX TV

Thank you Trevor for your input. I wasn’t aware she is in fact still with FOX. There has been some gossip that a few high table people left FOX due to the merger.

“Designated Survivor” sure seems to be injecting a lot of ’24’ elements to it – be it from former cast members (including Kim Raver now as an ally to Kiefer’s president and potential romantic interest) to storylines about conspiracies, warring nations and now a biothreat on US soil. I think most of that is of Kiefer’s doing, since he’s a producer on the show just like he was on ’24’. If that’s the case, he really has put ’24’ behind him.

Minor correction: Is this going to be the end of a great era with FOX?

I also forgot to add in addition to the Alien films. Programming such as The X-Files, Prison Break, to name a few.

I liked season 7 a lot also quite frankly better then season 8.

I get the feeling 24 is over.

I can see them doubling down on the diversity bingo if they ever come back.

Next time they will get an alien to the cast. Lol

Last person out of the fandom, don’t forget to turn the lights off… thanks

ABC has cancelled Designation Survivor. Will Fox try to persuade Kiefer to do another 24 limited series?

At this point, I’m hoping the character can just rest in peace. LAD was a better and more conclusive ending than people tend to think.

Yeah I did a rewatch recently and didn’t mind the ending this time.

Update from the upfronts:

“We are developing around the 24 franchise, which frankly we have almost since the show went off the air,” fellow Fox Television CEO and chairman Dana Walden said. “[Producer] Howard Gordon is working with a team of writers. They’re working on one idea we’re pretty excited about.”

Fox attempted to revive 24 last year with 24: Legacy starring Corey Hawkins, but the show didn’t catch on with viewers. Original 24 series star Kiefer Sutherland’s ABC drama Designated Survivor was canceled last week, so if Fox decided to revive the series the actor would presumably be available again.”

http://ew.com/tv/2018/05/14/fox-x-files-prison-break-24/

Turns out Howard Gordon’s working with co-creators Joel Surnow & Robert Cochran on a new iteration of the show. http://deadline.com/2018/05/new-24-installment-original-creators-the-x-files-season-12-update-prison-break-followup-1202390276/

Pity he didn’t do that with Legacy… ’nuff said.

I hope they don’t pick the same day as Super Bowl for the premiere.

FOX does have the Super Bowl in 2020… I wonder if this series won’t be on the air before then

I think a Super Bowl premiere would be cool if they had Jack back. If not then no one really cares

Ever-so-slightly reevaluated my opinion of LAD and Legacy.

I now find LAD to be the superior of the two, even though both of them are still shite.

I have to respectfully disagree with your rather blunt assessment of Live Another Day; it’s no Day 5, that’s for sure, and it has it’s flaws, but it’s a tightly-plotted and well-executed season of 24, and that’s not an easy thing to do – Day 6, anyone? As the lamentable last two mini-seasons of The X Files ably showed, bringing back a series years after it initially ended is a risky venture… but kudos to the 24 team for pulling it off on Live Another Day and doing justice to the show’s legacy… if it proves to be Jack’s swansong, it was a good one.

The only substantial thing I would change about that season would be shooting it on traditional 35mm film as opposed to the digital capture they did use, but really that’s about it… and digital or not, it looks very nice indeed on Blu-ray, it has to be said.

I didn’t know how to rate Live Another Day on it’s initial broadcast, but it’s grown in my estimation over the last four years… and that’s a mark of quality, in my book.

Another season with Le Kief would be great if they went into it knowing it was the last, and Fox didn’t fuck things up with their usual “if it’s good, leave it open for movies or more” approach.

It’s a tired old whore of a phrase, the whole “No Jack, no 24”, but we also need to have the 24 hour format back as well as Jack, because the 12 hour format clearly doesn’t fucking work!

Did anyone here see season 4 of the flash? Katee Sackhoff has one of the worst fake British accent ever. A cool character, but annoying to listen to.

As of today, shareholders of both FOX & Disney have agreed to the merger, and it’s more or less done. Valued at 71 billion USD.

Think they’ll start restructuring next year, and where this show would end up is anyone’s guess.

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